I'm right with you on that. What is the point of using a font style that looks like letters that drip blood? Who are you trying to reach with such an overly negative style to the video.
This summer I plan on making an entire series of videos that are high quality, well produced, and not at all like the ones you mention. Oh, and I actually plan on talking to the camera rather than putting up screens of text for people to read!
Look for these sometime late summer / early fall 08.
drew sagan
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Ex-JW Youtube videos (am I the only one who dislikes them?)
by Burger Time ini dislike them almost as much as i dislike pro jw videos.
i know this will start a huge overblown thing but seriously i am just stating my opinion.. they are always the same:.
1.cheap fonts and googled images.
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From Know It All Religon to a simple Know It All?
by AllTimeJeff ini was just curious for those of you who have left for at least a little time if you look back on yourself when you first left the borg and had this happen; because you were suddenly free to think, you thought you were right about most things soon after you left........ my jw experience groomed in me a disposition that i was always right.
that personality trait didn't leave just because i left jw's.
i realized one day last year that i thought in much the same ways i did as a jw, that is, i never questioned my own assumptions.. we were told that jw's were "the most educated people on earth".
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drew sagan
A great way to put it. I know one person who left the organization that fits well into the 'know it all' category. Still judging the world based on the illogical assumptions taught to him by the WTS. Still thinks he knows better than everybody else, even though it's all based on information given to him by the Watchtower organization (the same organization he detests more than anything).
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Dating a JW and need some help
by Whizkid ini've been 'going out' with a beautiful girl and we have a great time together.
we have a lot of similar interests and always have stuff to talk/do.
the problem is that she's a jw, and i know there is no way i'm going to become a jw.
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drew sagan
I DID THE SAME EXACT THING!!!!
Back in 1996 I got interested in JW girl who was "confused" about what she wanted to do. Three years later I had joined the religion and her relationship with me was no more. I was totally sucked in.
JWs are trained week after week to believe that they have all of the answers about life, the bible, and truth. They refer to their religion as "the truth". They believe that it can be proven to be the truth through a series of intellectual type arguments that appear to make a rock solid case. In most cases their teachings represent Biblical scholarship that is well over 100 years out of date, but how are you supposed to know that? To a person never that engaged in debating and defending religion their arguments sound plausible. This is how the JWs work. Convince people who have no experience in studying religion, history and the Bible that a handful of people at Watchtower Headquarters have found all the answers. If you have any doubts that most of their arguments are bogus I would suggest you just post questions here about them and we will point you in the right direction. If she is open to researching the faith, provide her with the books Crisis of Conscience and In Search of Christian Freedom by Raymond Franz. It just doesn't get better than those books. You can even get them as e-books at CommentaryPress.com.
If she does not fully give up the religion, then she will always be a slave to the Watchtower. She must recognize the movement as totally false. If she does not then every day she is away from the religion she will be filled with guilt, guilt which may eventually send her back to the group. There have been a number of people on this board who have told stories of marrying a JW who leaves the faith and swears they will never go back (but does not leave the idea that it is the "truth) and then get the shock of their life when they want to go back to the religion. It is not about physical removal from the group. It has everything to do with getting rid of all the learned behaviors the group has taught a person to live by. If a person stops going to Watchtower meetings but still believes that the Watchtower is at the center of Gods plan they usually do not leave a fulfilled life.
If she leaves the group mentally then you may have a chance together, although it could be rough between you and her family. If she still believes in Watchtower ideas, then you better think about moving on with your life. And I'll say it again, if you start to become interested in any of the religions ideas that she pushes on you, bring your questions here! We can provide you with real answers about any of Jehovah's Witnesses teachings, were they came from, and why they usually don't make any sense. -
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People who make the truth EXCITING!
by slimboyfat ini have been fading for years now and attend meetings very rarely these days.
but something happened recently to make me think about going regularly again.
a couple have returned to my congregation who used to be special pioneers here twenty years ago.
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drew sagan
This happens from time to time. A man and wife who are very excited about being JWs (usually because they get a lot of social prominence because of it) move into an area and get everybody excited about being JWs again. It never lasts. Usually the local group begins to expect far to much out of these people, and everybody becomes disappointed.
I remember a man from bethel who married a girl from the local area. They asked the CO 'what congregation needs us' and he sent them to ours. Everybody was ecstatic. People were doing all kinds of things and it was obvious that they felt these people would fix all the congregational problems. They quickly made him an Elder.
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Leaving the Organization but not the teachings
by donny inwhen i left the witnesses in 1992 after ten years in the orgainzation, i got as far away from the teachings and mindest as i could.
however some, like my former brother-in-law, also left, but are intent on finding ways to reform the society from within since he believes in the society as being of god, but that it has become misguided and is slowly drifting to "christendom" status.
one of the things he cites as evidence is the wtbts become aligned with the united nations.
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drew sagan
Excellent comments Jeremy C.
I simply could not continue to believe the argument that all Christianity had fallen into some terrible apostasy. It just became an absurd proposition IMO. The idea that Jesus establishes a faith and then lets it decay for thousands of years was simply out of the question. I reasoned that if I decided that Christianity was going to be my faith, I wasn't going to let an idea about thousands of years of apostate churches guide me. It was just to far fetched. -
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Society to start laminating paper backed publications
by Lady Zombie inat the wednesday night ministry school meeting, a letter from the society was read announcing that wtbts paperbacked publications will begin to be laminated.
according to the letter, this "will save approximately 2 million dollars per year," "lengthen the life of the publications," and "increase the attractiveness" of the publications.. so there's that.. .
also, will someone please explain to me why 85% of the congregation started smiling and nodding at this.. i sometimes think that headquarters could send the congregations boxes of turds and the jws would act like it was the best thing ever..
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drew sagan
What is the laminating replacing?
I believe what this means is that the low cost paperback books the WTS has been making are getting worn out very quickly. So while a hardcover book used to last a long time and could withstand multiple studies, the paperback books don't hold up. Thus the Watchtower has to print more books it than it really has to, simply because the ones they are printing do not last and are frequently reordered.
So it seems that by laminating their books they hope their members will get a bit more use out of them. I'm guessing that the cost to laminate is better than going back to hardback books. -
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Pictures of My Kingdom Hall
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They said it was because of gas, huh?
by MominAustin inso they dropped te bookstudy to help save gas right?
bull.
shit.
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drew sagan
Can I just ask? I missed that meeting. Did they honestly say it was about petrol???? Surely they weren't that stupid?
yeah, they actually did say it. I think it is a pride issue. They would rather argue that they must change because of an economic reason as opposed to admitting that the current situation within the faith demands a cut back in activity.
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Society to start laminating paper backed publications
by Lady Zombie inat the wednesday night ministry school meeting, a letter from the society was read announcing that wtbts paperbacked publications will begin to be laminated.
according to the letter, this "will save approximately 2 million dollars per year," "lengthen the life of the publications," and "increase the attractiveness" of the publications.. so there's that.. .
also, will someone please explain to me why 85% of the congregation started smiling and nodding at this.. i sometimes think that headquarters could send the congregations boxes of turds and the jws would act like it was the best thing ever..
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drew sagan
Because their lives are so dull, boring and simple, any kind of change is welcome. And since they're pretty indoctrinated into believing that the GB can do no wrong, anything from headquarters has to be a good thing, right?
that's about right ;)
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Leaving the Organization but not the teachings
by donny inwhen i left the witnesses in 1992 after ten years in the orgainzation, i got as far away from the teachings and mindest as i could.
however some, like my former brother-in-law, also left, but are intent on finding ways to reform the society from within since he believes in the society as being of god, but that it has become misguided and is slowly drifting to "christendom" status.
one of the things he cites as evidence is the wtbts become aligned with the united nations.
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Hate to refer to the new pew research poll like I have in many other posts, but the results show an interesting trend amongst JWs that is worth noting when discussing the points you brought up.
JWs by far are the most dogmatic mainline christian faith in the United States. All other major faiths have integrated with society up to some point.
Many people who leave a high control group like the JWs will typically leave everything they were taught. Because members are taught to accept "all or nothing" such as the new research poll shows, most when leaving choose 'nothing' and go about there merry way. So most people are like you, they give it up rather quickly upon seeing it is not true. They reason that if a part of it is not true, then most everything else probably isn't true either (and for the most part they are right).
The fact that some people, like your brother-in-law, cannot give up the black and white mindset of the WTS is not surprising. Many people who leave are still very much emotionally attached to some of the concepts taught by the WTS, including the idea that all major churches are false and that only people with special knowledge about a handful of Bible passages know the real truth.
So I argue that much of it has to do with emotion. Some people who leave the JWs sometimes have a great deal of anger towards the faith they were previously apart of because that church didn't make them 'strong enough' to know not to get involved with the JWs. I also know one person in particular that still likes to act as though he is all knowing like the JWs do. So he will rail on the other churches about their various teachings like the JWs do. Of course all he knows is what the WTS told him about such teachings, he has never taken any personal action to weed out all the crap they taught him. But again, I can tell he is very emotionally attached to the idea that the story-line as sold to him by the WTS is true. I would also say that some of it has to do with acceptance. The fellow I just mentioned had a brother who committed suicide over stuff that went on in the organization. I think some of his desire to hold on to the WTS teachings and ideas comes from the fact that if he did accept they were bad ideas, then all his suffering in the org would have been for nothing. He repeatedly has said "i didn't leave the truth, the truth left me", meaning that it was true when he joined, but slowly went bad over time.
So maybe some of it comes from not wanting to admit you made a big mistake joining the JWs. If it is all bad, then you made a 100% mistake. If you can reason that the WTS went bad while you were a member, you can put some of the blame on them, lessening personal responsibility. This is pretty much what I see going on in the guy I know.
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